NOT 'uranium .... Vaccines are
of " G. Paul "
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COMMISSION Parliamentary Investigation : the deaths and serious illnesses that have hit the
Italian personnel employed in military missions abroad, in the shooting ranges and sites where munitions are stored, as well as civilians in theaters of conflict and in areas adjacent to military bases on national territory, with details: attention to the effects of using depleted uranium shells and dispersion of nanoparticles of mineral nell'ani environment heavy materials produced by the explosions of war.
Italian personnel employed in military missions abroad, in the shooting ranges and sites where munitions are stored, as well as civilians in theaters of conflict and in areas adjacent to military bases on national territory, with details: attention to the effects of using depleted uranium shells and dispersion of nanoparticles of mineral nell'ani environment heavy materials produced by the explosions of war.
Thursday, May 17, 2007 - 7th Session of the Presidency President
Brisco Menapace
spoke of the general corps Fabrizio Castagnetti Command Chief Operating summit, accompanied by Rear Admiral Mario Tarabbo, Col. Arnaldo Bravi and Capt. Joseph Scuderi , and Admiral Chief Inspector Vincenzo Martines, Director General of Military Health, accompanied by Colonel Silvio Porcu, Aldo Piccininno Colonel and Colonel Mario Peragallo.
4 ° RES. STEN. (2 May 2007) Pages 26-27-28
THIRTY: ... In the graph shows the trend of diagnosis on the basis of years of exposure, the leukemia was chosen because, as I already said, is a hematological disease with peak incidence occurring after five to six years of exposure. If you apply the probability due to leukemia, cancer of the kidney and lung cancer, we note that, with an equivalent dose of 100 rnSv, the likelihood of leukemia is due to the 28.11 per cent. , with an interval of credibility (something interval credibility and confidence) of
95 percent from the 6.73 per cent and 49.22 per cent, so we are close to 50 percent. For the lung because of the probability is 35 percent, with an upper limit of credibility of 54.08 percent. These are the results of the calculations. I think the best thing is to compare these values \u200b\u200b
coti results from surveys conducted on soldiers who have been subjected to several epidemiological, clinical, radiochemical and physical properties to verify the existence of a possible correlation with the inhalation of uranium. A first result is that caused by the review to the Total Body Counter (CPC) at the laboratories of ENEA Casaccia. The CPC is a structure that completely shields the person on the inside
natural background radiation, in which a sodium iodide detector is placed on the individual to detect, in this case, the weak peaks in energy range and issued dall'U235 dall'U238, which are respectively equal to 186 keV and 13 keV. The results of this survey, conducted on a set number of troops in the first five to six years experience in the Balkans gave results VOID. This uranium is not the Total Body Counter. In a recent document of the World Health Organization dedicated to the subject is an overview on the mass of depleted uranium which, inhaled, irradiates the organs indicated. As already re-washed, the lung is the organ with the highest probability of cause at the same dose equivalent.
So, as we should expect more frequent disease is not leukemia, not lymphoma, but a tumor lung. Now, cancer of the sort that I know of were not there, or, if there were some soldiers who were in the theaters of war represent a disease entity
statistically comparable to that in the normal population of that age 'may suffer. It should be added that this case was likely to be assessed without considering the importance of smoking, probably many of the soldiers were smokers, as probably all of us were when we were young. In any case, there is even evidence to that effect. In the document of the World Health Organization, mostly depleted uranium are reported the values \u200b\u200bthat should be riscontraci, for example, Total Body Counter in the case where the person has inhaled a quantity of uranium. The schedule can be seen
reported that in 365 days dall'intake, the amount of uranium that this method would still to highlight is 2 grams, but we have seen with previous assessments that the amount present in reality would be far higher than . So the technique was able to detect the presence of depleted uranium if there was. The third evidence that was not detected, as just mentioned
colleague about the kidney. Even if what we are talking about is an insoluble uranium - as we have seen, or even M-class S - once it enters the body, metabolism and a part of it ends up in the kidney, necessarily, and there is excreted in the urine is then analyzed
. Well, if you consider the amount of uranium that may have affected the calculation kidney, there are values \u200b\u200bthat are much higher than the literature indicates that as the value threshold above which are beginning to show the first effects of nefrotosssicità, value is 3 milligrams per kilogram of the kidney. The weight of the renal mass is equal to 0.29 kilograms, and then the mass of uranium that may have affected the kidney, in vantazione made, is well above the threshold established. It follows that they should show signs of suffering renal effects that no one has found the clinical point of view. The last element has to do with the urine test, which was
conducted with a very sophisticated methodology, the mass spectrometer. World Health Organisation el document quoted above are the minimum values \u200b\u200bobserved in the case of acute poisoning from depleted uranium following an examination by mass spectrometry, one of the tests with the highest sensitivity. This method is able to detect 45 milligrams inhaled
after ten years, which is still at a distance of 10-11 years, the method of measuring urine would be able to provide guidance on a possible contamination than acute 45 milligrams.
The analysis conducted to date indicate values \u200b\u200bdifferent from the blank, ie from the urine of non-exposed uranium. In conclusion, according to this view, the case must be
probably look elsewhere. Depleted uranium is not the culprit, but the culprit is somewhere else.
COPPER (Mixed-LDV). I thank our guests for their reports, all very interesting, but the data that fomites are different with respect to time of onset of the disease. This is about ten or five years, but there are cases, of which I am aware, and I think the President and
other colleagues, in which the leukemia or cancer occurring before such terms. THIRTY
Literature scientific - I think I said earlier -
means for leukemia latency time shorter than two years. Previous two years before the exposure is responsible for a leukemia that appears two years later. This impact in terms of diagnosis (ie the ability to detect disease with diagnostic methods)
gives rise to a higher frequency of detection of 5-6 years, when there is a peak period then decreasing. The distance of 25 years, the liability exposure in the induction of the disease virtually disappeared. As for all other cancers, the latency period is of the order of ten years, meaning that before ten years hardly begins to see any effect due to ionizing radiation. This is the unanimous consent of all the scientific literature to which I referred earlier, with the exception of what has emerged in the case of the Chernobyl accident, in which children have expressed
thyroid cancer from exposure to four years. ZUCCHETTI I just want to stress the importance of caution with which should be made certain assertions, the College has applied his deductions for the model of the ICRP (International Commission on Radiological Protection), a model that in case of exposure to alpha particles and low doses should be applied with caution because the data of dose equivalent are provided by the ICRP are largely drawn from cases of exposure to irradiated at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that is related to exposure to high doses and beta and gamma rays. Very unlikely, they could be used in cases involving
exposure to depleted uranium. And the latter 'an exhibition of different types, since they are alpha particles and very low doses.
About this series before I mentioned the effect the viewer, but there are other effects that can help us to understand that exposure to radiation by alpha particles and low doses may be much higher than would be expected. I would therefore be much more cautious in carrying
depleted uranium from responsibility for the occurrence of such diseases. Much more useful is going to investigate the feasibility of a synergistic effect between chemical toxicity and radiological toxicity, in my view viable hypothesis. THIRTY
If I may respond, Madam President, questioned the application of ICRP models in these cases raises serious concerns frankly. The model in question, from the experience of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, certainly has not affected the internal contamination. It is instead a reference, for example, in cases of
exposure of miners who breathed in dust in the mines of uranium and radon, which emit alpha particles. The models I've seen
are based on these tools and this data scientific research, not on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I should point out that the explosions of Hiroshima and Nagasaki resulted
exposure to a neutron, for which the weights are similar to those used for alpha particles. Thirty Chairman thanked Professor and Professor Zucchetti, but we certainly can not be the ones to decide on this dispute contesissima
science. The fact remains that at the end of an important and interest-ing hearing, we are always with the same question unanswered.
Every four months, the defense ministries of health and sent to the Parliament of the reports containing information material - if you want brute, but targeted enough - on the pathological in the military who were in the theaters of war. There is always
tumors that indicate a presence of significant quantities of two figures, which are precisely those to the thyroid, testicles, bone, in addition to leukemia, and Hodgkin's lymphomas.
The fact that the rate of emergence of these diseases is significantly higher than that reported for the civilian population of the same age and same physical appearance and also to the soldiers who were not in the theaters of war leads us to believe that, perhaps, c '
is a defendant guilty.
In any case it seems to me important that these troops have been active in areas where depleted uranium was present in large quantities.
Since the objective data report that some soldiers get sick significantly more significant of their colleagues who were not present in the war theaters where DU has been abundantly used, what it does is that they are not trace uranium. The same
Dr. Antoinette M. Gatti, an expert on nanoparticles heard by the Commission, during his hearing, said they found no traces of the mineral (U) in the cases under consideration, and therefore there may be some other contributory cause
You can talk about the effect the spectator , kits of vaccinations given to soldiers without too much respect for the times magazine Recruitment, genetic factors, environmental factors due to exposure to low concentrations but prolonged in time.
I'm making assumptions, but that lead me to believe that the Commission should - of course if there is agreement of colleagues - you put the following question: since some argue that depleted uranium can not be due and that the Commission may also inquire about other causes, these causes can be referred to as, otherwise we are left to the same point, without being able to explain the origin of diseases that have arisen. It seems to be not so much in front of a yellow, as in cases of fiction! Taken from the original transcripts of the session, published on:
http://notes9.senato.it/
G. Paolo Vanoli (I2VGP) - Journalist - Consultant
Science of Nutrition and Natural Medicine biological
http://www.mednat.org/curriculum.htm
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time when medicine will organize, plan and plan to do with
without noticing, in a dictatorship. And the attempt to restrict the art of medicine
only to a class of persons, will be the Battle of
medical science. "
(By Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration Independence USA -
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time when medicine will organize, plan and plan to do with
without noticing, in a dictatorship. And the attempt to restrict the art of medicine
only to a class of persons, will be the Battle of
medical science. "
(By Benjamin Rush, signer of the Declaration Independence USA -
17 Sept. 1787)
this situation after 220 years of dictatorship and health is' created and YOU dear reader what you do to fight it?
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